It has been a while since I have had anything to post here. Today a friend pointed out a BuzzFeed post. A "Community Contributor" named Alex Reichert posted a list of 11 reasons to live in Seoul. Thanks to the likes of Chrissy Snowflake, I am pretty jaded when I see that a list like this has been posted about South Korea. Sadly, Alex proved to be about as bad as Chrissy.
There are only 4 items that really deserve to be on a list like that, and 2 could actually be lumped together. None of them are actually Seoul specific, ok plastic surgery capital is but plastic surgery isn't. From his list;
2. Fastest Internet in the World. That is pretty spot on. He could have added inexpensive in there somewhere as well. It is one of the things I miss about not living in South Korea any more.
4. and 10. could really have been lumped into one category. (A category that would ignore 7.) Amazing Food. Koreans do a great fried chicken, but the pizza, meh. (Ok, have to say that Potato Pizza did make me go Mmmm.) And of course Korean BBQ. How he could rank pizza and chicken above Korean BBQ I don't know. Probably because he is a bit of a fucktard. You can find some great food in South Korea, especially in Seoul.
5. Insanely cheap and quick public transportation. I would have called it inexpensive and reliable public transportation. Potato Potato. I loved the inter-city bus system and from those I know who used it the city services were just as good. Taxis are pretty cheap too. This is a good one.
That is it. The rest of his list pretty much sucked hind tit and smacked of the ramblings of Chrissy Snowflake, although not as pedantic. Let's look at the rest of the list.
1. K-Pop. Really, the fuckwit listed K-Pop as the Number 1 reason to live in Seoul. The way he writes you would expect to see people randomly dancing Gangnam Style down every street in Seoul. What really made me shake my head was when he wrote;
"With cell phone shops on every corner blaring music, you’ll be in K-pop heaven."
He leaves out the fact that it isn't just cell phone shops blaring music. It is pretty much every shop. Or maybe every other shop. From my recollection on most bocks there were 4-6 shops with music on outside. Oh yeah, duelling speakers maxed out at 11 whether playing the same or different songs every 30 feet or so is heaven. What a fucking moron.
3. Plastic Surgery Capital of the World. Yeah, that makes a city great. Easy access to plastic surgery. Better yet, the following comment;
"You can’t walk a block in Gangnam without getting the feeling that you just saw the same girl walk by a half dozen times."
It could be because Koreans tend to dress the same and style their hair the same. It must be plastic surgery. Or maybe he is just a racist twat who wants to say most Koreans look alike to him without appearing to be a racist twat. Or he is just a fucktard.
6. Make an unreasonable amount of money teaching English. Up to this point I was thinking, nay hoping, that this was just a tongue in cheek attempt at satire. Then this anal nugget popped up including links to other stuff Alex wrote about teaching in Korea. It included this gem;
"You can easily save $15k by the end of the year if you’re not trying to save, or $20k+ if you are."
Wow, did the bullshit alarm in the Flint Cave ever start blaring when that showed up on my screen. At first I thought the fuckwit was playing K-Pop on his page Then I realized it was just the BS alarm. It looks like I wasn't the only one to have such an alarm go off.
This was picked up in the comment section. Todd Parker wrote;
You're not going to get rich teaching English in Korea. I've looked at the rates pretty carefully when I was considering doing it myself. It's not poverty-wages - it beats the hell out of working minimum-wage in the States - but it's not going to make anybody wealthy.
Well said, Mr. Parker. Speaking as someone who worked there I saw people who did make oscene amounts of money. They were Ivy League graduates who worked insane hours at the most expensive hagwons in Seoul. NOT people who could just speak English fluently and had any old degree.
To which alex replied;
You won't get rich, but considering how "qualified" the teachers are and how much you can make tutoring, it's a pretty good gig. Teaching in Japan is much less lucrative. You can easily save $20k after a year in Korea.
Easily saving 20k a year isn't getting rich? Your stupidity is showing.
Matthew Cross pretty much finished swabbing the BS into the outhouse where it belonged when he posted;
no you really can't. Most people with effort can save on average about 1 million a month. That's only $882/month x12 + severance. Unless your severance is $10000 you aren't going to make $20k in one year, unless you are also working illegally. Face it, your list is awful.
Well said Mr. Cross. Well said.
I could go on and talk about numbers 7, 8, 9, and 11 but why bother. None of them are specific to Seoul. None of them are really things that would entice someone to live in a city let alone make it great. As I mentioned above, I had hoped this was an attempt at comedy. A pathetic one but still an attempt. However, when Alex tried to back Number 6 up with links to "serious" posts/pages he made off of BuzzFeed it made it seem less like comedy and just plain fucking stupid.
Alex also tried to defend himself later in the comment section when Mr. Cross posted what he thought of the post and Alex. He wrote;
I'm sorry, you're completely right. I just finished a teaching contract in Korea and thought it would be fun to throw together a list of quirky things I've come across there, but I'm far from being an expert. It's only purpose was to entertain, and I apologize if it offended you.
So, he did try to play the "comedy" card. It was just quirky things meant to entertain. It wasn't meant to offend. I highly doubt it offended anyone, it just made you, Alex, look like a fucktard. When you actually tried to defend your make unreasonable amount of money comment it kind of puts the lie to saying the list was just in jest. Regardless of your intent, it is a terrible list.
P.S. FYI Alex, it is NOT an article. You are not a journalist. It is a post about a list.
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Sunday, July 21, 2013
Tuesday, March 26, 2013
What the ... reasoning?!?!?
A friend pointed out an article "50 Reasons Why Seoul is the World's Greatest City". Many of the reasons would apply to any city in South Korea, not just Seoul. Some of them are just stupid. 9-10 of them are about food that isn't only found in Seoul. Only 11 of them are definitely about Seoul, 2 more can be stretched a bit to be about Seoul. Most of them are about Korea in general. It makes me wonder if this article was written by Chrissy Snowflake.
The article opens with the comment;
There's a reason Asian tourists have ranked Seoul as their favorite world city three years in a row.
Yes, there is a reason. Korean Nutizens flood any open voting site. Remember Rain being voted Time Magazines most influential person in the world? Three years in a row? :)
Lets look at some of the 50 reasons the article gives.
47. Best airport in the world. Ummm ... isn't the airport by Incheon? Which is why it is called Incheon International Airport? Then again when has a silly thing like reality ever stopped someone from making a list?
41. Most committed celeb stalkers. That is a good thing? Something that should attract people to a city and makes the city great?
30. G-Dragon? Really?
28. Excellence in flight. See #47.
23. Road trip to the axis of evil. If the DMZ is a couple of hours away then it ISN'T IN SEOUL. Fucktard.
16. The kimchi miracle. Really? When the fuck did CNN become the Comedy News Network?!?!? Are they trying to put the Daily Show out of business? They actually mention kimchi as something that prevents SARS and other diseases? Did the twat who wrote this article actually read the BBC article this one references? The SECOND sentence says:
The researchers said the results were far from scientifically proven and if kimchi did have the effects they observed, it was unclear why.
Fucking moron.
18. Canine coffee breaks. Wow, the author tries to slough off eating dog with this one? Love the opening sentence.
Koreans have an unfortunate reputation for turning man’s best friend into man’s next meal,
An unfortunate reputation? That makes it sound like they don't do it but people think they do. They do eat dog. If the dog restaurant I was in, and others I have seen are any indication it isn't limited to a small number of the population and old people. For my part, I don't care that they eat dog. It is a meat to them. The fact some believe that a dog beaten to death tastes better bothers me.
The list is a joke. The authors could have done a much better job. There are a lot of reasons why someone could say Seoul is great, or Korea. Most of what was used in this article is too general (applies to all of Korea) or just stupid.
Then you have the comment section which turned into a war on dog eating. Actually dog and cat eating. Which made me scratch my head and wonder. In my 10 years in South Korea I never once heard anyone talk about eating cat nor did I ever see a cat restaurant. Lots of dog ones but NEVER a cat restaurant.
Some of my favourite comments:
Alyssa: To all that are condemning South Korea for the consumption of dog and cat meat; Are any of you vegetarian or vegan?
Because if you eat any form of meat, according to this vegetarian, then you have no right to complain about how dogs are treated in South Korea. There are better arguments that can be made Alyssa.
Anneyong: Seoul is a beautiful country.
So is Africa. Fucktard. S/He then goes on to use that old tactic of "People do bad things in your country so you shouldn't say anything about other countries". Super fucktard.
Jeffrey Heo: How the heck did this comments section turn into a lynching over a cultural cuisine that a very small percentage of the population actually eat?
He tries to bring some sanity back but is it REALLY a small percentage of the population? Based on my experience I don't believe that to be true. The same people who used to tell me that when I lived in Korea also said it was only older people who ate dog. Yet that wasn't true.
The best argument to use about eating dog is a simple one. (As long as they aren't tortured to death. And talking about the conditions food animals are raised in on the factory farms is a very valid point.) It is a meat. Go fuck yourself.
Ana: Just because some people do it does not mean that all Koreans are "scums of this Earth" as you so stupidly put it.
Funny isn't it? That is just how Koreans like to lump foreigners together. Yet they don't like it when the same tactic is used against them.
Guest: The cats and dogs are not the domestic pets that you are thinking of but rather wild animals,
Your stupidity is showing. They are not wild animals. They are bred for eating. Much like cows, chickens, etc here. At least try to know what you are talking about.
sbarto: So Miss I'm From Forward Thinking UK, How does that horse meat taste?
Well said. :)
Michael Hughes: I went to Seoul in 2011 and I can say this is a great list of all that is great about going there. Seoul is certainly recommended. See it now before everyone goes there!
Yes, it is one of those places in the world that isn't frequented much but will be soon. Then it will lose it's uniqueness and be just another Bangkok. ;) What a fucktard.
The last commenter I will mention reminds me of a lot of Korean apologists I have encountered. They will lie to make Korea look good.
Kris: omg SHUT UP PEOPLE. I lived in Korea for years, let me say this: EATING DOG IS RARE. Let me repeat that for you dumbshits that can't comprehend this. IT'S EXTREMELY RARE. The only people that actually eat dog are just 80+ year old people. Why? Because they're used to it, that's what they ate when Korea was dirt poor and starving. Young people won't eat it. Stop getting your information from extremely biased websites. Maybe you should actually talk people who lived in Korea before. Stop embarrassing yourselves since you've never lived there.
This fucktard is so full of shit that nothing really needs to be said about his comment.
The article is disappointing but the comment section is entertaining.
The article opens with the comment;
There's a reason Asian tourists have ranked Seoul as their favorite world city three years in a row.
Yes, there is a reason. Korean Nutizens flood any open voting site. Remember Rain being voted Time Magazines most influential person in the world? Three years in a row? :)
Lets look at some of the 50 reasons the article gives.
47. Best airport in the world. Ummm ... isn't the airport by Incheon? Which is why it is called Incheon International Airport? Then again when has a silly thing like reality ever stopped someone from making a list?
41. Most committed celeb stalkers. That is a good thing? Something that should attract people to a city and makes the city great?
30. G-Dragon? Really?
28. Excellence in flight. See #47.
23. Road trip to the axis of evil. If the DMZ is a couple of hours away then it ISN'T IN SEOUL. Fucktard.
16. The kimchi miracle. Really? When the fuck did CNN become the Comedy News Network?!?!? Are they trying to put the Daily Show out of business? They actually mention kimchi as something that prevents SARS and other diseases? Did the twat who wrote this article actually read the BBC article this one references? The SECOND sentence says:
The researchers said the results were far from scientifically proven and if kimchi did have the effects they observed, it was unclear why.
Fucking moron.
18. Canine coffee breaks. Wow, the author tries to slough off eating dog with this one? Love the opening sentence.
Koreans have an unfortunate reputation for turning man’s best friend into man’s next meal,
An unfortunate reputation? That makes it sound like they don't do it but people think they do. They do eat dog. If the dog restaurant I was in, and others I have seen are any indication it isn't limited to a small number of the population and old people. For my part, I don't care that they eat dog. It is a meat to them. The fact some believe that a dog beaten to death tastes better bothers me.
The list is a joke. The authors could have done a much better job. There are a lot of reasons why someone could say Seoul is great, or Korea. Most of what was used in this article is too general (applies to all of Korea) or just stupid.
Then you have the comment section which turned into a war on dog eating. Actually dog and cat eating. Which made me scratch my head and wonder. In my 10 years in South Korea I never once heard anyone talk about eating cat nor did I ever see a cat restaurant. Lots of dog ones but NEVER a cat restaurant.
Some of my favourite comments:
Alyssa: To all that are condemning South Korea for the consumption of dog and cat meat; Are any of you vegetarian or vegan?
Because if you eat any form of meat, according to this vegetarian, then you have no right to complain about how dogs are treated in South Korea. There are better arguments that can be made Alyssa.
Anneyong: Seoul is a beautiful country.
So is Africa. Fucktard. S/He then goes on to use that old tactic of "People do bad things in your country so you shouldn't say anything about other countries". Super fucktard.
Jeffrey Heo: How the heck did this comments section turn into a lynching over a cultural cuisine that a very small percentage of the population actually eat?
He tries to bring some sanity back but is it REALLY a small percentage of the population? Based on my experience I don't believe that to be true. The same people who used to tell me that when I lived in Korea also said it was only older people who ate dog. Yet that wasn't true.
The best argument to use about eating dog is a simple one. (As long as they aren't tortured to death. And talking about the conditions food animals are raised in on the factory farms is a very valid point.) It is a meat. Go fuck yourself.
Ana: Just because some people do it does not mean that all Koreans are "scums of this Earth" as you so stupidly put it.
Funny isn't it? That is just how Koreans like to lump foreigners together. Yet they don't like it when the same tactic is used against them.
Guest: The cats and dogs are not the domestic pets that you are thinking of but rather wild animals,
Your stupidity is showing. They are not wild animals. They are bred for eating. Much like cows, chickens, etc here. At least try to know what you are talking about.
sbarto: So Miss I'm From Forward Thinking UK, How does that horse meat taste?
Well said. :)
Michael Hughes: I went to Seoul in 2011 and I can say this is a great list of all that is great about going there. Seoul is certainly recommended. See it now before everyone goes there!
Yes, it is one of those places in the world that isn't frequented much but will be soon. Then it will lose it's uniqueness and be just another Bangkok. ;) What a fucktard.
The last commenter I will mention reminds me of a lot of Korean apologists I have encountered. They will lie to make Korea look good.
Kris: omg SHUT UP PEOPLE. I lived in Korea for years, let me say this: EATING DOG IS RARE. Let me repeat that for you dumbshits that can't comprehend this. IT'S EXTREMELY RARE. The only people that actually eat dog are just 80+ year old people. Why? Because they're used to it, that's what they ate when Korea was dirt poor and starving. Young people won't eat it. Stop getting your information from extremely biased websites. Maybe you should actually talk people who lived in Korea before. Stop embarrassing yourselves since you've never lived there.
This fucktard is so full of shit that nothing really needs to be said about his comment.
The article is disappointing but the comment section is entertaining.
Sunday, September 9, 2012
Responding to comments 2: Why the hate?
This post is a response to 2 questions, maybe from the same anonymous person maybe not, in the thread Anonyjohn ... Alive and Trolling.
Anonymous August 27, 2012 5:38 PM
Why the hate for John? Maybe you really love him? Why not unban him and face him?
Hate is a pretty strong word. I wouldn't say I hate AnonyJohn. Dislike, yes. Also, as I mentioned in the comment section John has never been banned from commenting here.
Why do I dislike John? Partly because he is a troll. Partly because he is an ass. Partly because he tries to deny reality and twist things to fit his narrative. Any one of those things would make me dislike someone. AnonyJohn exhibits all those traits and then some.
Also, it is hard to take someone like John seriously when he tries to set people straight on life in South Korea. Yes, John did live there but by his own admission that was over twenty years ago. Yet he tries to diminish the experiences of people who live there NOW based on his "knowledge" of life there.
Think of it this way, I lived in Buffalo, New York in the mid 1990's. Let's say it was 18 years ago. Would I REALLY know what life is like living there now? Of course not. I could talk about what it was like then. I could say "When I was there 18 years ago ...". But I would be an idiot if I tried acting as an authority of what life is like there NOW.
Add to that the fact that John is a gobshyte. He talks shit. Some of the stuff he says is so out there that all you can do is shake your head, shrug your shoulders, and wonder how he functions in reality. The guy has admitted to trolling and then got upset at being called a troll. He is a fucktard. Here are some examples.
"I’ve never taken your words or the words of others out of context."
Yet, he has. Hell I doubt anyone can seriously claim they haven't done it. Maybe not deliberately, but we have all done it.
"I have been sharp with my words before, sure, but this is a site that has posts titled - "Retarded Shit Koreans Do," and "Korean Bullshit."
Now he could have cherry picked some great thread titles to use as examples of me picking on Koreans. Instead he MADE ONE UP. There is NO thread titled "Retarded Shit Koreans Do". (To go along with Korean Bullshit there is also a Foreigner Bullshit thread for discussing the stupidity of Foreigners in SoKo. But that doesn't fit John's view that I only bitching about Korea. When reality does not fit his narrative AnonyJohn ignores it.
"Buddy, he calls me a Mook first in the post. He says "I'm trolling," because I make multiple attempts to get my point across, which is responded by these fools as "trolling" from the get go."
As mentioned earlier, Johnny Boy ADMITTED to his trolling on David Wills site. he also exhibits the traits of a troll, but gets upset when called a troll.
"Just because the KKKorean Sentry people use words like "subhuman" and you use more PC words doesn't mean you're any different from them."
He actually equates people calling for a holocaust against China with people who complain about rudeness and stupidity by calling those kinds people mooks and morons.
"Buddy, he calls me a Mook first in the post."
He has whined about being called a mook, a moron, a fucktard, and a troll. His defence for calling people names is that they do it first. Yet he ignores when HE is the instigator, such as his attacks on a new commenter on David Wills site. He calls him a kid. Arrogant. Stupid. Brainwashed. All in his first address ever to the commenter who never once disrespected him. When called on this he refused to, answer, or god forbid even apologize for it. Which is the perfect time to segue into my last point.
"You have to realize, at some point, that the only difference between yourself and the version of me you envision in your twisted head, is that you have your own blog and a band of followers. Cheers."
If John honestly believes that is the ONLY difference between the two of us ... oh wait he probably does believe it. He is THAT full of batshit.
Here are some other differences that while true don't fit his narrative. When proven wrong I am not afraid to admit it. When an apology is called for I am not afraid to make it. When called out for being too harsh I am willing to look at what I said/ did and agree if I was. (And I have on this blog.) Those are things that John has never been able to do on my Blog or David's. Dunno about the other sites he trolls.
In short, he is a fucktardic troll heavy on the batshit. That is why I dislike him.
Anonymous September 4, 2012 10:26 AM
Why the fixation then?
I get bored sometimes and AnonyJohn is an easy diversion. Mea culpa. :)
I hope this answers your questions.
Suicide
A "question" was asked in one of my comment sections here that I answered on Flint's Follies. Instead of reposting it all here I provided the link above for anyone interested.
Tuesday, August 28, 2012
Responding to comments.
I wrote a little post about some of the fucktards who comment on my blogs. (Said fucktards being the ones who like to post death threats, fuck off's, etc.) It is over on Flint's Follies if you want to take a look.
If, like I often am, you can't be arsed to follow the link I will provide a brief synopis of the post below.
Thanks for helping relieve my boredom and showing that while what you say means nothing to me my words get your panties in a bunch. :)
If, like I often am, you can't be arsed to follow the link I will provide a brief synopis of the post below.
Thanks for helping relieve my boredom and showing that while what you say means nothing to me my words get your panties in a bunch. :)
Wednesday, July 18, 2012
What the ... excuse?!?!?
I was reading an article David Wills wrote in Busan Haps and the subsequent comments from readers. A couple stuck out, especially one by a person going by the name AnESLteacher.
It's a good article.
I agree... every time a foreigner screws up, it sets all of us back. It's a normal reaction. It happens everywhere.
We must also always show respect to the locals, we are guest here. Even to the @$$hole ajoshis.
I do believe that things are changing, with every year fewer and fewer people point at me.
And with time, once all these kids that we are presently teaching grow up, racism will become less of a problem.
An interesting comment. There is some truth to it but part of it left me shaking my head.
It's a normal reaction. It happens everywhere.
Really? If that is true, that people react that way every where, why was there no outcry against Koreans in America over the Virginia Tech shooting? From what I have seen the over reaction to the deeds of a few foreigners gets blown up more in Korea than in the US or Canada. A lot more.
Saturday, July 7, 2012
WSJ Commenters 3
4:50 am June 8, 2012
Expat Hypocrisy wrote:
“South Korean media, as happens in other countries, tend to scapegoat, deride and criticize foreigners for a variety of reasons, some real but many exaggerated. English teachers, in particular, get an outsized heap of criticism from the South Korean media, owing in part to the fact that, as elsewhere, scary stories about children get lots of attention.”
In the same way that foreign bloggers “scapegoat, deride and criticize” Koreans? I have a problem with this criticism especially when it comes from expat bloggers who have no qualms about disrespecting their host country. I don’t believe anyone should be scapegoated, but work on your own house first before criticizing others.
Ah yes, the old "don't disrespect your host country" line. A favourite of apologists second only to the "it happens in your country" excuse. Which the fucktard manages to cram into his last sentence.
I love it when they try to equate complaining about poor treatment with showing disrespect to your host country. It is just so bat shit.
Why the wouldn't people complain when they are treated badly ANYWHERE? Especially when they are actually living and working in the country in question! Paying taxes. Contributing to the economy. It is happening to them where they are living and working NOT in their home country so of course it would is relevant.
When people encounter racist behaviour anywhere they should speak out. I complained about the stupidity I encountered in South Korea and on my other blog I complain about the stupidity I encounter at home in Canada, and anywhere else I encounter it.
What a fucking moron.
Expat Hypocrisy wrote:
“South Korean media, as happens in other countries, tend to scapegoat, deride and criticize foreigners for a variety of reasons, some real but many exaggerated. English teachers, in particular, get an outsized heap of criticism from the South Korean media, owing in part to the fact that, as elsewhere, scary stories about children get lots of attention.”
In the same way that foreign bloggers “scapegoat, deride and criticize” Koreans? I have a problem with this criticism especially when it comes from expat bloggers who have no qualms about disrespecting their host country. I don’t believe anyone should be scapegoated, but work on your own house first before criticizing others.
Ah yes, the old "don't disrespect your host country" line. A favourite of apologists second only to the "it happens in your country" excuse. Which the fucktard manages to cram into his last sentence.
I love it when they try to equate complaining about poor treatment with showing disrespect to your host country. It is just so bat shit.
Why the wouldn't people complain when they are treated badly ANYWHERE? Especially when they are actually living and working in the country in question! Paying taxes. Contributing to the economy. It is happening to them where they are living and working NOT in their home country so of course it would is relevant.
When people encounter racist behaviour anywhere they should speak out. I complained about the stupidity I encountered in South Korea and on my other blog I complain about the stupidity I encounter at home in Canada, and anywhere else I encounter it.
What a fucking moron.
Wednesday, June 27, 2012
WSJ Commenters 2
The commenter known as NN really left herself open to ridicule.
2:23 am June 14, 2012
NN wrote:
I’m a Korean woman with a fluent English,
Whoa! Stop right there! If she really believes her English is fluent she is living in a fantasy land. Just the 1st part of this sentence, let alone the rest of what she wrote, puts the lie to that.
but I think there are really ‘some’ Korean women who rather lacked proper communication skill, but wanted to take an advantage of ‘foreigners’ as well as some ‘foreign men’ (especially white) who try to take reflected advantages from those women and satisfy their fantasies about Asian women. I often felt that they are often deluded by this misunderstanding even if they knew it was wrong. On top of that as those foreigners are mostly short-term visitors, so two groups seem to take this as an ‘adventure’ or ‘escape’ rather a serious reality or commitment. However it is not well accepted here, Korea, where has really closed and narrow society with high moral standard.
Heh ... thanks for making me laugh. I can agree with the closed and narrow society but high moral standard? What the kimchi?!?!?!?
I do have several white-foreign acquaintances who married to Korean women and do not think all of them are the same as the below Korean man claimed. However it is still true that there are really lots of ‘scumbags’ here, too. They came here to find a job as a short term English teacher something but do not take their work seriously. Also they just have fun and leave soon when they enjoyed enough with some money. This is not bad at all and entirely their freedom, but the problem is that there are really some socially wrong and irresponsible people. I personally met some like this, but ‘they’ warned of me this and confessed they are doing some ‘rubbish’ jobs when they met some ‘easy’ Korean women. Personally I really could not get this, because some of them are fine as an acquaintance or coworker, but I think they still do so even if they know it is wrong.
Hmmm ... so she is saying that they are scumbags because they are white-foreigners, they come to work for a short term (a couple of years? a few years?), don't take their work seriously, want to have fun, and leave after making some money. Interesting definition of what makes a scumbag.
Or is it the ones who meet those criteria AND are socially wrong and irresponsible that are scumbags? And what the hell does socially wrong mean?
I think no matter wherever I go, I could find those people. If this happened between the same Korean people, or even American, this would not be such a big problem. However this could be serious because this is not just ‘personal issues’ but could be some ‘diplomatic issues’, too. Also it must be clear here is obviously Korea, not other countries. I think some foreigners should respect (precisely ‘aware”) of the difference before they come to here, rather than trying to apply their rules here.
Overall, she makes sense in places but her "fluent" English turns some of that into gibberish. Her last paragraph really wants to make sense but she just can't pull it off.
If NN hadn't started off by prattling about how fluent her English is I probably would have just ignored the shitty writing job she did. But she didn't.
2:23 am June 14, 2012
NN wrote:
I’m a Korean woman with a fluent English,
Whoa! Stop right there! If she really believes her English is fluent she is living in a fantasy land. Just the 1st part of this sentence, let alone the rest of what she wrote, puts the lie to that.
but I think there are really ‘some’ Korean women who rather lacked proper communication skill, but wanted to take an advantage of ‘foreigners’ as well as some ‘foreign men’ (especially white) who try to take reflected advantages from those women and satisfy their fantasies about Asian women. I often felt that they are often deluded by this misunderstanding even if they knew it was wrong. On top of that as those foreigners are mostly short-term visitors, so two groups seem to take this as an ‘adventure’ or ‘escape’ rather a serious reality or commitment. However it is not well accepted here, Korea, where has really closed and narrow society with high moral standard.
Heh ... thanks for making me laugh. I can agree with the closed and narrow society but high moral standard? What the kimchi?!?!?!?
I do have several white-foreign acquaintances who married to Korean women and do not think all of them are the same as the below Korean man claimed. However it is still true that there are really lots of ‘scumbags’ here, too. They came here to find a job as a short term English teacher something but do not take their work seriously. Also they just have fun and leave soon when they enjoyed enough with some money. This is not bad at all and entirely their freedom, but the problem is that there are really some socially wrong and irresponsible people. I personally met some like this, but ‘they’ warned of me this and confessed they are doing some ‘rubbish’ jobs when they met some ‘easy’ Korean women. Personally I really could not get this, because some of them are fine as an acquaintance or coworker, but I think they still do so even if they know it is wrong.
Hmmm ... so she is saying that they are scumbags because they are white-foreigners, they come to work for a short term (a couple of years? a few years?), don't take their work seriously, want to have fun, and leave after making some money. Interesting definition of what makes a scumbag.
Or is it the ones who meet those criteria AND are socially wrong and irresponsible that are scumbags? And what the hell does socially wrong mean?
I think no matter wherever I go, I could find those people. If this happened between the same Korean people, or even American, this would not be such a big problem. However this could be serious because this is not just ‘personal issues’ but could be some ‘diplomatic issues’, too. Also it must be clear here is obviously Korea, not other countries. I think some foreigners should respect (precisely ‘aware”) of the difference before they come to here, rather than trying to apply their rules here.
Overall, she makes sense in places but her "fluent" English turns some of that into gibberish. Her last paragraph really wants to make sense but she just can't pull it off.
If NN hadn't started off by prattling about how fluent her English is I probably would have just ignored the shitty writing job she did. But she didn't.
Thursday, June 21, 2012
WSJ Commenters 1
I read through the comment section for the Wall Street Journal article "MBC Producer What's the Fuss About?". There were some interesting ones, both good and bad, which bear commenting on.
The first one that stood out was from a commenter going by the name "Welcome to the Real World". He addressed a topic dear to me, apologists.
9:37 am June 8, 2012
Welcome to the Real World wrote:
Apologists for this piece need not raise their voices here. Korean culture gets slammed for xenophobia, racism, fascism, etc, because it deserves it, plain and simple. If Koreans didn’t act this way daily to foreigners of all colors, races, creeds, and nationalities, then the “rumor” (fact!) of racism in this culture wouldn’t be deserved. Unfortunately, that is not the case. Far too often, the significant others of Koreans in mixed relationships must endure disgusting behavior that is entirely based on the insecurity, incivility, and ignorance that exists in Korean culture.
Apologizing for it and quieting it over, deflecting, or outright denial about it won’t make it go away. It was only the intolerance of this type of behavior in other cultures that has suppressed and made these inhumane actions unwelcome there. The same intolerance is expressly deserved and long overdue here as well.
This was very well said. In fact I will probably use this in the future when responding to Korean apologists.
The first one that stood out was from a commenter going by the name "Welcome to the Real World". He addressed a topic dear to me, apologists.
9:37 am June 8, 2012
Welcome to the Real World wrote:
Apologists for this piece need not raise their voices here. Korean culture gets slammed for xenophobia, racism, fascism, etc, because it deserves it, plain and simple. If Koreans didn’t act this way daily to foreigners of all colors, races, creeds, and nationalities, then the “rumor” (fact!) of racism in this culture wouldn’t be deserved. Unfortunately, that is not the case. Far too often, the significant others of Koreans in mixed relationships must endure disgusting behavior that is entirely based on the insecurity, incivility, and ignorance that exists in Korean culture.
Apologizing for it and quieting it over, deflecting, or outright denial about it won’t make it go away. It was only the intolerance of this type of behavior in other cultures that has suppressed and made these inhumane actions unwelcome there. The same intolerance is expressly deserved and long overdue here as well.
This was very well said. In fact I will probably use this in the future when responding to Korean apologists.
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