I am going to start this post with the last section I wrote. Why? Because it is going to be long and the last bit pretty much sums everything for those who just want to skip to the end.
"Of course none of what I just said will matter to AnonyJohn. In his universe all I said was "blah blah blah fucktard blah blah blah Korea bad blah blah blah AnonyJohn wins!"
Will he leave and not come back? Who the fuck cares?
Part of me hopes he returns and not just so I can say "I told you so." Fucktards like him can relieve the boredom at times. Part of me hopes he keeps his word because you can never get through to people like him. The trolling can become boring instead of a relief from boredom at times. Only time will tell."
Now for the post in its entirety.
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For some reason, kind of makes me wonder who the "whitey esl" anonymous poster might be, his comment ended up in "spam" and not "awaiting moderation". A few "anonymous" posts came in around the same time he sent his comment in. Until AnonyJohn started whining about me not approving it and declaring he won I never actually knew the post existed. Even though AnonyBaby said he was taking his ball and going home I still looked for the post because I wanted to know what the kimchi happened. and I found it in spam. Mmmmm .... spam.
I have to say AnonyJohn's speed in whining about the comment not being approved is kind of funny. I have no idea what the time is set for on the blog, I should look into it, but AnonyJohn's comment was submitted at 8:59 and he started whining about it not being approved at 12:04. Three hours. Jeebus H Crisco John, it was only 3 hours! Some people do have lives.
Maybe before declaring victory he could have simply asked what happened to it. Was I ignoring it or did I not get it? Of course that would be asking for too much common sense from him. I could understand jumping the gun if I had a history of not allowing comments but I don't. The whole TWO comments I have not approved since starting the blog were actually posted, sans the link they included to AAk's site. That is anonyJohn for you.
As for his "missing" post. It was classic AnonyJohn. He REALLY fixated on one sentence I wrote when talking about groupthink in SoKo and twisted the hell out of it. When talking about the darker side of groupthink I said:
You can see it in the racial stereotyping by Koreans.
I never said stereotyping was particular to Koreans. I never said stereotyping was the main problem. The depth and degree of groupthink in Korea is. I said you can see the darker side of groupthink in the racial stereotyping. Which just means most Koreans seem to hold the same racist stereotype strongly and blindly.
AnonyJohn's reply to Eve questioning his logic
EVE: You're right. Flint doesn't outright say stereotypes are exclusive to Korea, but he uses these stereotypes as an argument that Koreans have herd-mentality. I'm sorry, but which countries doesn't have stereotypes about other races/nationalities? Perhaps he didn't mean to say that? But here are his exact words: "You can see it (herd mentality) in racial stereotyping by Koreans." So just based on those words, am I to assume that if a country shows more creativity in stereotyping, they have less of a herd mentality?
Who the hell said racial stereotypes are creative? And AJ left out the examples of it. Does he REALLY think some dumb fuck who thinks every white person is an American or every black must be from Africa is creative? We DEFINTELY have a different opinion on creativity then. I think it shows a huge dollop of ignorance. Creativity has nothing to do with it.
Nor did I say steroetypes show the herd mentality. Nice of him to ignore everything else, including his own links, which pissed on his arguments and focus on that one sentence. Hmmm ... isn't that something he accused me and Dave of doing?
It was also interesting to see how he tried justify himself to Burndog.
Buddy, he calls me a Mook first in the post. He says "I'm trolling," because I make multiple attempts to get my point across, which is responded by these fools as "trolling" from the get go.
I have to wonder if AnonyJohn even knows what a troll is on the internet. AnonyJohnnyBoy seems to forget we had words on another website loooooong before he came here. One could say before he followed David, or me, here. AJ has a long history on Dave's site. I considered him a troll there long before he came here because he kept showing on David's site berating David and anyone else who disagreed with him or complained about Korea. He would post the same shit over and over. (Almost as if he thought that by continuously posting it he would somehow make people believe him.) Then he came here and did it. Sounds like a troll to me.
someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
That pretty much nails him on Dave's site and at times here. It is the same shit over and over. When he isn't twisting shit around and ignoring reality he is making shit up. Why? To provoke.
I have been sharp with my words before, sure, but this is a site that has posts titled - "Retarded Shit Koreans Do," and "Korean Bullshit."
Then we have the "post titles" that piss him off. Well, first off they aren't post titles, they are categories or labels. I just checked to make sure but there is NO category or label titled "Retarded Shit Koreans Do" and lo and behold I was right. It doesn't exist. So I did a search for it just in case I was wrong and one post had that title. Here is what I found:
No posts matching the query: retarded shit koreans do
AnonyJohn, outright fabrication? Do you really know why the site pisses you off if some of the stuff you claim irks you DOESN'T exist?
He is right, about one thing, there is a "Korean Bullshit" tag. There is also a "Foreigner Bullshit" tag. I have said it before and odds are will again, reality just isn't AnonyJohn's friend. One is for posts about bullshit Koreans do the other for bullshit Foreigners do. Would you feel better if it said "Bullshit in Korea" AJ? Would that have your panties in less of a twist?
So I am a hypocrite because I talk about shit in Korea and about Koreans that bothers me. I don't talk about the same stuff in other countries here. Here being ...a site ABOUT Korea specifically. This is one of the things that always makes me chuckle, when assholes like him whine on about how you never talk about shit in other countries ... on a site about KOREA. What a fucktard.
Evidently AnonyJohnny never saw my other site, which I have mentioned many times, where I bitch about non-Korean things ESPECIALLY the crap in Canada. Who is a hypocrite again AnonyJohnnyBoy?
AnonyJohn also may have also missed the fact that I have a "Shit Koreans Say" category. Or in his world does that translate to "Retarded Shit Koreans Do"? Does that category upset him? What about "Shit Foreigners Say", "Shit Morons Say" (which has been used to point out the idiots on Korea Sentry), "Shit people Say"? Do they all upset him? Or just the Korean one? Which would be hypocritical of him wouldn't it? Can you guess what category he is being lumped in now?
Oh wait ... didn't he complain that I ONLY talk about the bad stuff Koreans do and not anyone else? Doesn't the FACT that these categories exist, complaining about the shit foreigners do in Korea make him ... wrong? Oh no, not AJ. He is a winner! He won!
Then you have his comments directed towards Burndog.
Burndog, these people have disrespected me, a country I love (and the home country of my wife) LOOOOOOOOONG before I was here calling him stupid.
Is that what has your knickers in a twist? We diss a country you love and the home of your wife? Grow the fuck up.
AnonyJohn you were being an obnoxious troll long before you came here. But of course that didn't happen in your reality. Seriously AnonyJohn, don't try and play the poor victim here. Hell look at how condescending you were to someone the FIRST time you replied to a comment by him about his time and experiences in Korea on David's site.
In many ways, the kid does bring up a lot of good points, but in others, it shows the type of arrogance that you 20 year olds often display.
And you wonder why people don't talk to you in a pleasant manner? FIRST fucking time you ever replied to the guy you talk down to him like that. He is just a kid. An arrogant 20 year old. Now why would anyone want to tell you that you are a condescending asshole for that?
I can trust Flint’s opinions, but the two of you haven’t been in Korea so long that you have the right to say, “we know the REAL Korea, and all of you other folks are fucktards, brainwashed assholes.”
My response was to say
Who the fuck said I am in my 20′s? Thanks for assuming John but you are off by a lot.
To which JohnnyBoy replied:
I never knew I was directly talking to you there, Flint.
Of course he never knew that. He only used my name in his second sentence. He started off by calling the OP " the kid" then mentioned "you arrogant 20-year olds" and in the NEXT sentence mentions me. But hey he never knew that last bit could be directed at me. And he wonder WHY I call him a mook and a troll? Oh and a fucktard. A serious fucktard.
He finished his diatribe by doing something he whines that I do to him, he dissed Burndog.
You think when they bitch about Korea that is them being positive? Of course not, but you don't give a shit because you agree with them and not with me.
Did he ever ask him about that or was he just assuming? Burndog strikes me as the kind of person who will tell you when he thinks you are right or wrong. When you are good, bad, or a stupid cunt. Once again, why would people ever think AnonyJohn is condescending and a prat? Maybe because he sounds that way.
In the end AJ sounded like a whiny fucking brat. Oh, you agree with them not me so I will discount what you say! Now I will take my ball and go home to mommy.
Of course none of what I just said will matter to AnonyJohn. In his universe all I said was "blah blah blah fucktard blah blah blah Korean bad blah blah blah AnonyJohn wins!"
Will he leave and not come back?Who the fuck cares?
Part of me hopes he returns and not just so I can say "I told you so." Fucktards like him can relieve the boredom at times. Part of me hopes he keeps his word because you can never get through to people like him. The trolling can become boring instead of a relief from boredom at times. Only time will tell.
It has been an hour and a half since I sent a comment in and you aren't brave enough to post it. You did post my duck one but not the other one. You must fear Anonytard!
ReplyDeleteSince you ignored it or deleted it I will resend it now!
Why do people keep going back to sites that just anger and frustrate them? It is like watching someone smack their head against a wall because they expect it to eventually give way.
Once again ... a post went to spam and not "awaiting moderation". Must happen when people send more than one post close to each other. I did delete the original/old one since you rewrote it here.
ReplyDeleteIsn't continuing to do the same thing while expecting the results to be different the definition of insanity?
He has the most fantastically predictable pattern for trolling, too. He starts off politely and respectfully, offering perhaps a sensible opinion, and then starts unraveling so fast. I think he has some kind of mental issues. Paranoia, most likely.
ReplyDelete"In many ways, the kid does bring up a lot of good points, but in others, it shows the type of arrogance that you 20 year olds often display. I can trust Flint’s opinions, but the two of you haven’t been in Korea so long that you have the right to say, “we know the REAL Korea, and all of you other folks are fucktards, brainwashed assholes.”
ReplyDeleteIt seems to imply that the two people he's referring to are the kids, and you are someone he can trust.
Anonytard: Could be except there were only 2 people ahead of his comment, 3 if you count David reposting A Real Expat's comment as its own thread. It could be taken to mean them, or us, or he could have just been making a general comment to all readers. It is vague enough to be taken any of those ways. I took it as including me.
ReplyDeleteRegardless, it was a condescending way to address someone, the OP, who he had NEVER talked to before and who had never dissed him. Something that bothers him when he is the victim of it.
As DW said, it was pretty much his usual pattern of posting.
Trolls on blogs in Korea are the best trolls in the world. :)
ReplyDeleteFlint - your response to the comment directed to me was better than anything I could have written.
Thanks Eve. :)
ReplyDeleteJust finished your series of posts about your racial identity.
ReplyDeletehttp://thingsevewoulddo.blogspot.com/p/series-about-my-racial-identity.html
It was a good read. I noticed you seem to have you own John, Jon Ayres. I was thinking of answering his comment about not understanding why people saw what he said as negative. :)
@Flint - If you're up to it, Jon will definitely engage. He's a ranter. When he left that comment, I was like, "He just doesn't get it."
ReplyDeleteLike most trolls, as you know. :)
Go for it - it's been awhile since there's been major controversy on my blog. LOL. I thought that people might get up in arms about my Russia banya male prostitute story, but apparently, people only get worked up when I talk about racism/sexism. Figures.